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Saguru Hakuba ([personal profile] clockmaster) wrote2008-12-21 01:46 am

[OCC: CAN I HAS PLOTTING TIEM NAO? D: plus, useful information about the A.I. Doyle ] TL;DR


This post is more related to the Magic Kaito/ Detective Conan crew and Mawell smart, but other’s people opinions about future plots are welcome :3

1-Ok, let’s start talking about Hakuba’s Mom Katherine. I didn't planned to make her an important character, I wanted her to post just for the fun and to develop Hakuba's character, but Conan's reaction to her was priceless and it fits the plot. It ended up with Katherine being the younger sister of Vermouth (Sharon/Chris Vineyard), and because of that she needs to be half British (mother) half American (father).

Katherine discovered that Shanon was part of the Black ops and because of that the two women broke all their ties to the point that not even Hakuba knows about his auntie. She felt like Shanon betrayed her trust and that changed his way to act around family. She’s that cruel with Hakuba because she don't want him to get hurt and disappointed by his family like it happened to her with her sister. That’s why she always acted like she never cared about him and why she wanted Hakuba to be able to take care of himself on his own. but if someone really tries to hurt his son or his husband, she will focuses all her bitchiness rage to make that person's life a living hell.

Now I want to know what is the rest of the cast going to do with that idea. ^^

2-I know that Conan and Kid are talking about her, so it’s Kid going to spy Hakuba's family and try to discover her mother’s maiden name? He’s not going to be happy if he discovers about the investigation, he’s already annoyed about the idea of Conan and Hattori going around the comm..

3-Hattori made the connection between the two women yet?

4-We are not really sure if the Black ops who tried to kill Kudo were also the ones who killed Kaitos’s father, but we acted like they were the same organization. I was thinking that maybe the code name of the members depends on what mission they have assigned. Like, if the most terrorist and danger one like Gin or Vodka have alcoholic drinks as codenames, maybe other related to find Pandora’s stone have the names of dangerous animals, like Snake. But that’s just an idea :/

5- Some weeks ago Kaito’s mun and I decided to describe a heist where Pandora was found on Washington and lost in the Multiverse (black ops showing up and tried to kills Kid and Hakuba, they worldhopped by accident to another place, and lost the jewel in some random world) to start heist in in another universes.

I don’t know if any of you is aware of Maxwell Smart's canon, the secret agent from the show GET SMART, but we wanted to use the idea of the evil organization from that canon, named KAOS, being related to the Black ops in some way to investigate and mix the plots.

6- About Hattori/Conan-kudo/Hakuba/Kid-Kaito (such and orgy) relationship, I don’t’ know how everyone acts around each other. As much as I know:

- Heiji and Hakuba kinda hate each other and act like a married couple yelling to the other all the day, but they decided to exchange information about the Black ops for the the common good.

-Conan and Hakuba…I’m not totally sure about that. Hakuba will help Conan on his situation, but he don’t want to tell him about his relationship with Kid.

-Hakuba-Kid, the detective is less than happy to know that there’s another detectives on the comm. that can discover about him being allies with Kid. The reasons, here.

-Hakuba/Doyle/and the others. Hakuba don’t feel like let people know about the existence of Doyle, even if some people from the comm. already know about him. He will tell Heiji and Kido on the future, but for now he wants it to be another of his secrets.

-Kid-Conan, Kaito/Conan, Kid/heiji, Kaito/heiji.. Can someone explain me how all that relation works? I think that Heiji is annoyed/amused by Kid, Conan hates him long time, Kid is totally amused with all the detectives, but also a bit worried,, and Kaito have to make a magic show for Heiji…? O_o

Now, some info for the newbies about the A.I. Doyle

-Officially, Doyle it’s and A.I that Hakuba created because he was bored and he wanted someone to play chess with (yeah go and mock him about his lack of friends), the truth is that he created Doyle to protect the information they collect about the organization.

-Doyle can’t be destroyed because it’s a program that runs on the net and can improve himself. It can be hacked, but not really destroyed and now he kept a lot of backups of his original programming. It was really basic at first, and it didn’t have much of a personality, but some people on the community helped to improve it (The Daleck Sec, lol) and it changed soon.

-I had the personality of Hakuba, but when the detective was kidnapped by Azula and was missing more than 3 days, Doyle started the Reichenberg Security System, and allowed Kid to have free access to all the information. Kid used it as his advantage and changed Doyle personality into him. Hakuba changed Doyle back, but still had some personality traits form Kaito. Rufus hacked Doyle at some point, and the A.I. was acting like him. In the end, it become and hybrid of Hakuba, Kaito and Rufus.

-Doyle can talk. Better explained on that drabble I wrote (it also explain the situation after the worse Kid heist ever). Hakuba created the StartSytem program for him, it means that Doyle can fake real people voices and give answers like the real person.

Uhm…such a long post :/ I think it’s all.

[identity profile] peoplesprincess.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
It was an arrest; goddamnit Hakuba. >:\

I mean-!

HAHAHAHA YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND HAVE TO PLAY CHESS WITH YOUR COMPUTER LOLOLOL.

<3

EDIT: ... Yes that was a spam comment, I'm sorry. DX
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[identity profile] clockmaster.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
KIDNAPPING >:|

......YOU HAVE NO FRIEND EITHER!!!!!..and oshiii you're fast replying how you did that??? o:

[identity profile] peoplesprincess.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
ARRRRRRRRREST.

I HAVE TWO FRIENDS, SO THERE. :D :D A-and I get email alerts when Hakuba's journal updates because I like to read your entries. XD

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[identity profile] wannabesanta.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
..And after I come off my haitus I will comment with Max I swear more. Rather when I go on hiatus then come off.
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[identity profile] clockmaster.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Ey no worries!! >_> we are quite busy now, too mcuh detectives together lol:

^^ it's just that I remember that you liked the idea of max getting more involved on the plots, but if you can't it's ok

[identity profile] wannabesanta.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
No, no. That's not it all.

I would love too.
It's just that with Xmas and between that and New Years RL wise, it's going to be @_@ with parties.


And I'm going to burn out RP wise soon, with all the fictional Xmas stuff. You have no idea how much I push myself some days but yet I enjoy it XD
So, break is needed.
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[identity profile] thricedeadwind.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Zechs wants to apologize in person to Hakuba at some point. ;_;

And he wants to play chess with Doyle. ;)

[identity profile] clockmaster.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Tyki invited him to their house 8http://community.livejournal.com/dramadramaduck/2559832.html?thread=174853720#t174853720), we can set an rl :D

And Doyle can talk to Zechs in a sexy voice while doing it ^_~

[personal profile] pandorabox 2008-12-21 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
.... h-holy crap, Lylith. What have we done? oO;; There is so much plot for a crack community XD

Also, I could tl;dr on Kid's feelings towards his the detective trio if you need me to.
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[identity profile] clockmaster.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
I know...sorry U_U *shame on me*

^^' it's not necessary unless you want, I just wanted to know if Kaito get along well with Heiji and Conan.

[personal profile] pandorabox 2008-12-21 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, it's epic.

He gets along with them about as well as he does Hakuba, really. Maybe a little bit better since there isn't as much animosity as there is with Hakuba (s-sorry, blondie, you hit on his best friend D:) Hattori amuses him far more than he should, and Conan is... er. His biggest rival, so he's picking on and making fun of them just about as much as he picks on Hakuba. He's also completely capable of putting aside any differences he might have with them if necessary, though. Like he does with Hakuba on occasion.

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TL;DR >> I'm working this out as I go...tbh

[identity profile] kendo-taisho.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
I love this group so much, it's not even funny. O____O *____* ILU


Anyway, Heiji's pretty out of the loop. I'd have to reread the manga (DDDDDDD8) to put together just how much Conan has shared with him. (Or I can just ask Kinzie. XDDD) But no, he hasn't put together the resemblance between Vermouth and Kathrine.

Mostly he's just at the point of 'Gawd, Hakuba's mom is useless. Aren't moms supposed to embarrass their kids to their friends?'. He's not fond of her, cause she makes him feel bad for Hakuba, but other than that, he has no real opinion on her.

So far I know that Heiji doesn't hate Hakuba. He doesn't like him, of course, but that's entirely because when he first met him was when Hakuba was doing his 'better than thou; I'm-an-asshat' impression. (It prolly didn't help that Heiji solved that particular case...) He does have some respect for Hakuba in there somewhere. Enough to trust his intelligence when he really needs to. He knows that a lot of the times in this business he is going to have to work with people he doesn't like.

Kid annoys Heiji, but not nearly to the extent that he tends to do Conan. Heiji doesn't chase him all that often (and only twice that I can remember: Movie 3 and sort of in one of the OVA). Most he knows is news or what Conan complains to him with. Yet, he doesn't care to follow it very often. Kid isn't exactly his idea of a perfect target.

The way I like to play him is that he'd be more than happy to help Kid out in the whole Pandora thing (if and when he's let in on it.) He's not above slipping over the line of the law to get something done. The ends justifies the means pretty much, as long as he doesn't break his own morals.

As for Kaito? Well, he finds him fun to talk to and is actually looking forward to a magic show. The joys of ignorance.

[personal profile] pandorabox 2008-12-21 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
OH HEY, WE LOVE YOU TOO (AND KINZIE) FOR GIFTING US AN AWESOME HATTORI AND SHINICHI. ♥ Just thought I'd say that.

You know, I wiiiish there was more canon Heiji-Kid interactions. >: As far as I play Kid/Kaito, Hattori has the pleasure of being the only detective (other than Urameshi, who doesn't count, obviously, and to some degree Itsuki, who isn't an official high school detective) that he likes on a personal level (from their interactions so far, anyway). FEEL SPECIAL, HATTORI. Hakuba is a kinda-sorta friend and they have their moments, but blondie annoys the crap out of poor Kaito (and completely rubs him the wrong way more often than not) and Shinichi is just... too good at what he does that Kaito would rather keep his distance for the sake of his identity and freedom (but Shinichi also has the pleasure of being the detective Kid respects the most as far as the profession is concerned, so).

... not quite sure I decided to tl;dr at you. SORRY.

[identity profile] kendo-taisho.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
SURE U DO I KNO I'M MEDIOCRE lol


He is honored. Not that he'll ever know, anyway. XD Nobody actually tells Heiji when they like him. Well, like/respect/laff at/etc.

XDD It's not a tl;dr! It's only a quarter of what I wrote... o__O

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[identity profile] clockmaster.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
poor Kaito? he's the one pranking me all the time

CRY MOAR kuroba >:|

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LOVE ALL AROUND

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BUBBLE~

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Re: BUBBLE~

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Ey no worries :P

[identity profile] clockmaster.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Really? ^^? I was worried about if I was being too much...too much XD

I didn't read all the whole conan manga, so it's ok. I have it online, do you want the link? :D

She makes him feel bad for Hakuba? Aww such a Softy, Heiji :3...>_> he's right about her.

Hakuba's worse trait is his pride, you know ^^. He didn't really hate Heiji either, he's not his best friend, but he have respect for him. Not like he will tell him, of course. And he doesn't considerer Heiji stupid or dumb, but it's more fun to get the other detective annoyed and riddle up. Besides, at the moment he sees Heiji and Conan as a risk to Kid and him. Hakuba is territorial, he don't like other detectives on his territory >:(

I didn't saw most of the movies and any OVA :(

Oh I also have Hakuba wondering about his own moral here:
http://clockmaster.livejournal.com/9674.html?thread=327882#t327882

And this RL come from this other http://community.livejournal.com/triple_d_events/18044.html?thread=2660220#t2660220

XD god bless ignorance
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dressedinmelody: upshot of Alize from King of Bandits: Jing, sneering (we don't use our eyes)

[personal profile] dressedinmelody 2008-12-21 10:56 am (UTC)(link)
ALIZE SAYS WHY YOU GOTTA HAVE A HATE ON, KATHERINE.

[identity profile] clockmaster.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
KATHERINE DON'T GIVE A DAMN, SHE'S MORE THAN USED TO IT


AND DON'T GO NEAR HIS SON, YOU TOMGIRL.

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oceanicbutterfly: (hmm)

[personal profile] oceanicbutterfly 2008-12-21 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Starting in February, Karen and Urara are going to be fighting an organization called Eternal. Basically, they're an evil museum (yes, museum), and they steal valuable things to add to their collection and beat the crap out of anyone who tries to stop them. And all of them can turn into monsters inspired by poisonous creatures.

Personally, I think it'd be really cool if Eternal was also after Pandora, and so every so often there would be a heist where we got giant monsters causing confusion. Maybe they'd eventually make a deal where they work together to find Pandora, and they'll put it in the museum after the Black Ops are done with it.

On the other hand, maybe that's making things too complicated.

[identity profile] clockmaster.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Darling, we love to make thing complicated. ;)

Sounds really cool, Styx knows more about your canon than me, but I think that we can think of something.

Why they steal things? For money?

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[personal profile] pandorabox 2008-12-21 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, yes. Yes.

This is Go Go, right? Ffft, still haven't watched it yet, but I am so for that.

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[identity profile] mercifulmyass.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I never thought suggesting Pandora get lost between worlds would turn out to add to such a fun plot idea! -Loves crossovers like this like no tomorrow!-

So KAOS and Black Ops are making an alliance unknown to Control and the Kaito/Conan crews? Awesome!

[identity profile] clockmaster.livejournal.com 2008-12-21 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Weellllll it was a cool idea and I love to make everyone participate! :D

Mayybeeee, and maybe Aqua Cure canon is going to get mixed too. if we kleep the multi-verse plot up we can go around a lot of people plots ^^ tehee

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dressedinmelody: headshot of Alize from King of Bandits: Jing, neutrally describing something. (Default)

[personal profile] dressedinmelody 2008-12-21 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have a whole lot to contribute other than Jing becoming a possible ally of Kaito. The villains in Jing and Alize's world are just kind of generally corrupt because there isn't a lot of law around there, so there aren't any big evil organizations. Unless you count the Tovarisch, but they're more like a mini-mafia. But hey, if they found their way on the comm and started blustering and threatening everyone, it might be hilarious. So many villains these days.

And Ran's already IN the Conan canon, so no help there. XD

Although if I do wind up picking up Knives in the future, he'd likely want to destroy Pandora if he ever found out about it. He thinks humans are bad enough without them living forever, thx.

[identity profile] clockmaster.livejournal.com 2008-12-22 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
We can NPC them and I like the idea of jing and Kaito fighting.

EY! That's why she's important too, because she's on the canon! :D Hakuba and Aoko already been pestering Conan for
to call her more ^^

OOOh knives!!!! <333

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